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[b.samriey]

Hello guys! 

My name is Bas 39 years old very happy and glad to be with a valuable comunity like you.. Please accept my apologies because i cound't post my first post in Dutch languge because i can't speak it very well yet (with my all love to you!). However I am from Heemskerk-North Holland and recently i started my registration and applied on nabv.nl to get my permission, and i would like to took the opportunity to provide special thanks to Jan Airsoft Club Nederland who made great video tutorial on youtube "Beginnen met airsoft?" which make it more easier and possible..!

Please allow me to ask so quastion i really need to know about it and i will be very greatful for any answser my lead me to correct way.

1.The yearly subscribtion on nabv.nl "i think" about €96 ,-  so my quastion is: should i pay extra fees when i play airsoft at any field in the Netherlands? 

2.Since I am from Heemskerk: what is the closest airsoft field to me (Note I'm using public transportation)..

3.After complete the procedure at nabv.nl and get my license or ID: what do you suggest me to do (like what is the next step)?

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One more quastion guys what do you think about A&K A.E.G. brand? is it good quality or do you suggest another one? 

Please feel free to post your opinions and love to hear back from all of you ( don't hesitate to reply in Dutch language i can understand it or ven translated in google)..

Met mijn vriendelijke groet!

Bas

 

 

[Guest]

#1.The yearly subscribtion on nabv.nl "i think" about €96 ,-  so my quastion is: should i pay extra fees when i play airsoft at any field in the Netherlands? 


yes there are entry fee's on the they coast about 25-30euro, per skirm i think, so per day of skirming but it variates where you play i guess.



 the 96,- a year is the subscription to the licence to be able to have the  airsoft-guns legal in the netherlands.

 

[Guest]

Hi Bas,


First of all, welcome to the forums. Can I ask you where you're originally from? 


To answer your questions:



1: The NABV licensing and registration fees are around 86 euros per year. This excludes entree fees to airsoft locations because these are not owned by NABV. Entree fees are, as Ninojte said, around 25 to 30 euros and are able to be even higher such as 60+ euro's when it covers a whole weekend.


2: When you're through registration procedure you will be able to log into the mijn.nabv website. There's a map covering all airsoft locations, teams and shops specifically for Airsoft. You'll be able to check your nearest Airsoft location on the map.


3: First step after registration? You haven't said whether you've had your first experience with Airsoft yet. If you haven't had your first experience I'd suggest running along for a day on a location with a rental set. In example; for 35 to 60 euros you can join a 1 day skirm in Lelystad (Flevoland). You will receive a uniform (green) and a rental airsoft replica. After this day you can pinpoint your interest. Are you into rushing and sprinting the entire day? Do you want to support your teammates who rush and sprint? Or are you more of a sniper, awaiting its prey silently and taking it out with one shot? Sniping is not suggested as you start with Airsoft, but everyone is free to do as he chooses.


4: A&K is a good price/quality balanced brand as far as I know. However, it doesn't always go for the entire brand, some brands make perfect M4's and other brands make perfect AK's. Just don't let them switch it up and deliver shitty AK's or M4's ;-)


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. There might even be someone with the airsoft replica you're looking for that is able to give you some more insight.  

 

[Guest]

Hi Stey!

Thank you very much to informative information .. much appreciated!

I did check that and i found Assendelft is the closest city to me, organized by rslairsoft.nl/rsl

So i will try to see thier field and gameplay as well to establish good idea on how it's work, but left or right i can note there is a few fans of this game in the Netherlands as i experience in the UK 2007 but now became more larger in England. However i believe i should visit Amsterdam field's and check how it's work and see the number of participating members of there.

Because it's not wise if i spend some money on Airsoft grea's at the end we have a few people joined the game..

I had nice experience with Airsoft sport in England with small community mostly close friends we used to play in public park back to 2007 and i used to be Marksman but mostly i prefer to be in close combat (supporting my team) and some other experience earned through military service, that's why I've been asking about A&K brand because I'm looking forward to M16 SPR  rifle or GR-25 good quality..

However many thanks to your wonderful words and tips so grateful to you! and hopefully will meet you guys in the game in one day, till that time be safe and wish you good luck! 

No doubt if i need any info or tips i will get back to you.

My greetings.

 

[Guest]

Hi Bas! 


I'm glad you found my video helpfull! 


Cool that you have some experience playing airsoft in the UK. Keep in mind that according to some of the more hardcore airsofters, the Dutch players and fields are mostly gunslingers. Not so much about experiencing milsim like stuff, but spraying BB's as much as you can. So you could get a skewed view by going to RSL. There are some fields that have a more serious playstyle (sometimes). 

 

[Guest]

Hi Bas,


 


2# If you use the public transport there is a small note:


Most of the public transport compagnies have in there rules that it is not allowed to transport with weapons. So if you are using public transport make sure that your have your airsoftgun in a normal bag. So noboby can see u are transporting a airsoftgun. also with your clothes make sure everything is in an non camo bag.

 

[Guest]

...the Dutch players and fields are mostly gunslingers. Not so much about experiencing milsim like stuff, but spraying BB's as much as you can. 

@Jan Where'd you get that from? I reckon you've got more Airsoft experience than me, but in the few skirms I've played I haven't experienced any gunslingers as of yet. However, I do see Dutch people burning down *all* other Dutch Airsofters and locations. It seems it's a new hype to make The Dutch seem as cheaters that are not taking their hits and are arcade players.


I wasn't expecting such a statement from "El Commandante" and I'm quite disappointed to see this. If the above statement is ACN's view, please let me know.

 

[Guest]

Well to be hounest i have only seen arcade games in the netherlands.
I havent seen a real milsim here.
And if you compare the dutch fields to lets say UK fields there is a huge difference in gameplay.
So i share partitionaly Jan's comment.

Ps. im not saying that i dont enjoy dutch "arcade" gameplay.

 

[Guest]

Sadly but true. I started in 2008 playong in belgium. But syrange but true, how more dutchys how more cheaters. In 2013 was the legalisation. When i started to play in the Netherlands Halfway of 2013 it first started good but later on i see more cheating. There is no mid/low cap playing with the most of the players because many People are gunslingers (spray and pray).

NOT ALL THE DUTCHYS ARE LIKE THIS. But i have seen the amount growing. I only played on open skirms on saturday.
And one time on sunday and i saw more cheatets. Meaby because they already played on saturday and loosed that day.
I haven't play milsim or something like that in netherlands.

 

[Guest]

I'm sorry this had to hog your topic, @b.samriey ... 

Also, I'm certain this discussion should be started somewhere else on the forums (admin?).

We could continue there without hogging this topic that's supposed to be a warm welcome...

 

[Guest]

 


@Stey I get that from forums. But I'm also inclined to say that. Granted, I never played a milsim game in my life. I'm more a comsimmer, at the halfway point between milsim (shitting in the woods for a whole weekend) and spraying BB's. I love a true chain of command, ROE, and some roleplay, but cant take a whole weekend with 4 hours of sleep  


Teamworking (not just within airsoft teams, but amongst the entire team for instance), pushing on objectives instead of tree hugging, having more to worry about than simply taking the other guys flag (ROE),  even just updating other players when they arrive on the "front", is something you dont see a lot here. 


I'm not trash talking Dutch events and players btw, I just wanted to give Bas a heads up before he went in with a different view.  I can imagine games in England being a higher standard since airsoft is "older" over there.


Could be interesting to make another topic about this like you said! ^_^ 

 

[Guest]

Hello gentlemen, i really can't thank you enough to all your good feedback and warm welcome.. appreciate it so much! 

@Toothpick, thank you to your advice i'll keep that in my mind and carry my gun in the bag as i used to.

@Stey, (Sander and Jan) they're alright in different way that they didn't mean to let you down,most Airsoft players in the U.K are veteran from (Desert Rats regiment 7th Armoured Brigade or Black Watch, 3rd Battalion) so you can imagine how the game play is? no doubt more regulation and more discipline because military experience cast a shadow on how they play.. but also that doesn't mean all the player good organizers, left or right it's just hobby and nothing real at the end so each person can play the airsoft the way he or she find it good, but yeah still ..sigh.. when you play with people more organized using maps and follow the orders and respect the rules or you play with kind of people using high cap mag (350 round) gives you hail of BB's..So i thing this is what (Sander and Jan) means at the beginning some people make the game more realastic or some people play such as gunslingers..


 Jan i sub to your channel on youtube and i seen your last epic video (Riot shields, geleende pistolen & Robin!) keep it up guys hopefully i will jound you sooner, BTW i got my VOG and i sent it right away to nabv.nl

All the best to you gentlemen and be safe and happy airsoft everybody!