WW2 at RSL
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Not really ww2 game, but only a scenario, because you can just use a modern replica with a limited bb count. To bad an actual reenactment game would be much cooler.
Geen idee wanneer dit is, maar anders was ik er graag heen gegaan.
Helaas is het niet echt ww2, maar deze game mode spreekt mij wel aan. Hier heb je tenminste geen sprayers die tactloos een bosje onder vuur nemen in de hoop degene die er achter zit te raken.
Helaas is het niet echt ww2, maar deze game mode spreekt mij wel aan. Hier heb je tenminste geen sprayers die tactloos een bosje onder vuur nemen in de hoop degene die er achter zit te raken.
Dit is alles behalve een WWII skirm. Zoals al gezegd is alleen de gameplay opzet in WWII stijl.
Ik doe regelmatig mee aan echte WWII skirms. Daar moet je dus ook rekening houden met o.a.
1. Tijdperiode gerichte (en correcte) kleding
2. Tijdperiode gerichte replica's
3. BB restrictie(zo realistisch mogelijk
4. Geen speedloaders of exttra bb's mee het veld in
5. Geen porto's
6. Juiste taal beheersen en spreken in field(Duits of Engels)
7. Ander HIT protocol waardoor je ook nog gevangen genomen kunt worden
En ga zo maar door. Naar mijn idee de mooiste skirms die er zijn.
Commercieel niet haalbaar klopt, op de gemiddelde WWII skirms zijn er ongeveer tussen 40 en 60 man max.
Gelukkig zijn er genoeg organisaties die bereid zijn om op een dag wat minder te verdienen en zo de WWII spelers een mooie dag te bezorgen.
Dit is gewoon een poging van een organisatie om te kijken of er animo is voor een andere skirmopzet. Jammer dat ze het dan een WWII skirm noemen, wat het duidelijk niet is.
Nou ja, los van de naam van het beestje lijkt het me overig wel een leuke game-modus.
Ik doe regelmatig mee aan echte WWII skirms. Daar moet je dus ook rekening houden met o.a.
1. Tijdperiode gerichte (en correcte) kleding
2. Tijdperiode gerichte replica's
3. BB restrictie(zo realistisch mogelijk
4. Geen speedloaders of exttra bb's mee het veld in
5. Geen porto's
6. Juiste taal beheersen en spreken in field(Duits of Engels)
7. Ander HIT protocol waardoor je ook nog gevangen genomen kunt worden
En ga zo maar door. Naar mijn idee de mooiste skirms die er zijn.
Commercieel niet haalbaar klopt, op de gemiddelde WWII skirms zijn er ongeveer tussen 40 en 60 man max.
Gelukkig zijn er genoeg organisaties die bereid zijn om op een dag wat minder te verdienen en zo de WWII spelers een mooie dag te bezorgen.
Dit is gewoon een poging van een organisatie om te kijken of er animo is voor een andere skirmopzet. Jammer dat ze het dan een WWII skirm noemen, wat het duidelijk niet is.
Nou ja, los van de naam van het beestje lijkt het me overig wel een leuke game-modus.
Yes my fellow men, you're all alright.
It's regrettable hard to find people giving a great appreciation to this sport, the majority of airsofter here in the Netherlands either play this game to kill the time or just because one of his friend joined this game so he followed him as well..
Once you find the most of the player has no idea what he is going to play today or even what is the plan?
Or even if he know simply he camping somewhere in the field waiting to the enemy team coming to him to tell him (hi sir where are here now shot us) just because he is to lazy to carry the responsibility of the battle or actually he is there to take some photos to the facebook or any other social media. And when you ask him about his map update or enemy team coordinates on the map it's looks like i did ask him about Japanese food names..
But when they play football you find the same guy thinking whole the time on how to improve himself and how to win the game (so why the airsoft less appreciation to you!!).
Now they come to the idea to play WW2 at RSL field with single shot only, peace of cake..
I shoot them with full auto and barely call hit so what the single shot going to do? i don't know..
It's regrettable hard to find people giving a great appreciation to this sport, the majority of airsofter here in the Netherlands either play this game to kill the time or just because one of his friend joined this game so he followed him as well..
Once you find the most of the player has no idea what he is going to play today or even what is the plan?
Or even if he know simply he camping somewhere in the field waiting to the enemy team coming to him to tell him (hi sir where are here now shot us) just because he is to lazy to carry the responsibility of the battle or actually he is there to take some photos to the facebook or any other social media. And when you ask him about his map update or enemy team coordinates on the map it's looks like i did ask him about Japanese food names..
But when they play football you find the same guy thinking whole the time on how to improve himself and how to win the game (so why the airsoft less appreciation to you!!).
Now they come to the idea to play WW2 at RSL field with single shot only, peace of cake..
I shoot them with full auto and barely call hit so what the single shot going to do? i don't know..
Lol I don't get what you wanted to say with this rant. Don't get me wrong it is a novel idea and having some sort of story line is good especially in combination with special rules, like limited ammo and single shot only for rifles, but they could have called it something else that would make more sense, especiallly with the fact that you can use modern era replica's and camo. Like for example a fallout/wasteland scenario, as you could also argue for these that you want to shoot single shot only to conserve ammo and also limited ammo would make sense as you would have to scavenge it and this also allows for any replica to be used.
If I see a WW2 Skirm I expect correct outfits, replica's and other stuff, together with the outnumbering units on one side and also with limited comms for the regular GI that are proposed by RSL would make it a very cool scenario.
TL
R: Could have used multiple historical battles as their story while still retaining the same feeling if you only limit comms, ammo count and fire modes, my opinion would be make up your own settings like post apocalyptic, which could retain the same set of rules but give a better vibe to the players.
If I see a WW2 Skirm I expect correct outfits, replica's and other stuff, together with the outnumbering units on one side and also with limited comms for the regular GI that are proposed by RSL would make it a very cool scenario.
TL
R: Could have used multiple historical battles as their story while still retaining the same feeling if you only limit comms, ammo count and fire modes, my opinion would be make up your own settings like post apocalyptic, which could retain the same set of rules but give a better vibe to the players.
Lol never mind..
What i mean is, I've never see such this things here in the Netherlands (and the question is why not?) since everything is available and easy to reach. In England you can easily find well organized Vietnam team or WW2 and Modern warfare teams (now i know you will say why don't go back of there and shut your mouth
)..
However as i said I'm not WW2 neither Vietnam fan bu still love to see this game it takes the maturity of significance between the players.
Take look to this rare example which he deserves all the respect and appreciation.
This guy appeared on Jan ACN youtube channel wearing perfectly WW2 uniform and gears (so why it's hard to see well organized people like this one) the answer in my previous comment
What i mean is, I've never see such this things here in the Netherlands (and the question is why not?) since everything is available and easy to reach. In England you can easily find well organized Vietnam team or WW2 and Modern warfare teams (now i know you will say why don't go back of there and shut your mouth
)..However as i said I'm not WW2 neither Vietnam fan bu still love to see this game it takes the maturity of significance between the players.
Take look to this rare example which he deserves all the respect and appreciation.
This guy appeared on Jan ACN youtube channel wearing perfectly WW2 uniform and gears (so why it's hard to see well organized people like this one) the answer in my previous comment
Well mostly because airsoft isn't available in the Netherlands for very long 3 or 4 years now if I am correct? Probably not that long compared to other countries around us and despite that, there is the other thing that although this gear is readily available it might not be that cheap (not sure maybe someone with actual historical gear can tell), compared to other gear. BTW there are probably groups for specific scenario or historical games, better yet people in my group are part of groups that do reenactment skirms, but if you want to join those you need to do a bit more work to find out about them, then just google for airsoft skirms XD.
I don't think it is necessary the attitude of people but also the stuff they grow up with, for example most current shooter games are about the current wars with modern weapons and not historical, older people and people that have an interest in for example ww2 are more interested in historical battles but that is probably a select group compared to people that come from the gaming community to airsoft.
Final thing is probably replica's, historical ones are expensive, with some exceptions (M1 Thompson, MP40, Sten gun,1911, Luger), but things like a M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, FG42, Gewehr 43, Kar 98k, PPSH, Mosin Nagant, M1903 Springfield, SVT-40, MG42, M1919, DP-28, Arisaka, Lee Enfield, M3 Grease gun and so on, these are either not even available or for quite a high price.
I don't think it is necessary the attitude of people but also the stuff they grow up with, for example most current shooter games are about the current wars with modern weapons and not historical, older people and people that have an interest in for example ww2 are more interested in historical battles but that is probably a select group compared to people that come from the gaming community to airsoft.
Final thing is probably replica's, historical ones are expensive, with some exceptions (M1 Thompson, MP40, Sten gun,1911, Luger), but things like a M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, FG42, Gewehr 43, Kar 98k, PPSH, Mosin Nagant, M1903 Springfield, SVT-40, MG42, M1919, DP-28, Arisaka, Lee Enfield, M3 Grease gun and so on, these are either not even available or for quite a high price.
There's so many reasons why players would or would not want a WWII loadout. I'm not going to list them as I think they were already named by others above me.
My 2c to this:
I also agree that it is not a WWII skirm without WWII weapons/clothing. I understand that this will limit the selection of players coming to the event because not everyone has that. However, the people that DO come to these events are serious (hardcore) players because no beginner/half-assed airsofter goes for a WWII loadout (for above mentioned reasons like pricing and availability). WWII players value authenticity / re-enactment value so they shouldn't have to deal with some guy running a tricked out M4/M16 with all kinds of attachments and a modern MOLLE setup for multiple reasons.
The 'modern players'
My 2c to this:
I also agree that it is not a WWII skirm without WWII weapons/clothing. I understand that this will limit the selection of players coming to the event because not everyone has that. However, the people that DO come to these events are serious (hardcore) players because no beginner/half-assed airsofter goes for a WWII loadout (for above mentioned reasons like pricing and availability). WWII players value authenticity / re-enactment value so they shouldn't have to deal with some guy running a tricked out M4/M16 with all kinds of attachments and a modern MOLLE setup for multiple reasons.
The 'modern players'
- didn't dedicate themselves enough to merit their admission to such an event
- don't suffer the handicaps (loadout limitations) the WWII players do
- break the immersion (their look doesn't match)
- are probably less willing to respect the simulation aspect of the event
